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Basically, all the planetary statements including the 5-A calc come way after the running wild arc (the running wild arc happened in STC issue 80 - 82 and the planetary statements were in issues 116 - 118), who is already rated uni+, so his pre-running wild state should just go back to At least 6-c, likely far higher
His LS should be downgraded alongside this as well, removing the class z rating
Acausality is listed as one of the possible uses for higher-dimensional existence and there’s no justification, so unless someone has a justification, it should be removed.
The current calc uses an assumption that Popstar is the size of Saturn, even though there's no evidence for that, and it seems more likely that Popstar is around Earth-size, as it's similar in size to Shiver Star, which is basically an Earth-look a like
So, i'd recommend to use this calc instead:
Still Low 4-C, but without the +
Agree: @The Pink God
The power of the explosion Katsuki Bakugo managed to create during his fight against Nine was only 8,12 Tons of TNT (Large Building level+)
While at the "Attack Potency" is "Large Building level+", at the "Tier" it's "8-B", which is incorrect. Also the "8-A" from "Tier" should also be changed into "8-B" (and City-block level+ at the Attack Potency and Durability)
So, this is a pretty simple one. What I’m proposing is that all Gurren Lagann characters should lose their high 1-C ratings.
This is the scan using to support the current ratings for the characters: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/e/e3/PicsArt_05-03-07.13.10_%281%29_%281%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20210210155507
I would’ve thought people might notice but the statement in question actually verbatim says that the “10th and 11th dimensions” are what they call the universes that the anti-spiral created a time-space between the membranes of.
The fact is that if this scene was supposed to depict something that’s 11D in nature, they failed by virtue of incorrect use of language or it’s translated incorrectly and needs another translation from the raws.
That will be all 👌
Shouldn't Adam and Zeus from record of ragnarok be universal? I say this because thay are only planatery to solar system level, I think thay should be universal because Zeus called the big bang a "thrill" and it's what made the univese in real life.
Maby I am wrong but I wish to know why this is and if that could change
Sorry for me spelling, it's just rubish
Current reasoning on Belphemon's (the only Demon Lord here) profile has no reason whatsoever to be High 1-B
High Hyperverse level (The Demon Lords themselves are Multiversal constants, with their existence itself being linked to the Digital World. Their true forms are infinitely stronger than it's avatars)
It just mentions that their true forms are infinitely stronger than their avatars, but that simply doesn't grant High 1-B at all, and further evidence is needed that their true forms scale to Kernel (which is basically the High 1-B structure in-verse)
So basically sunmarizing this:
True Demon Lords rated as High 1-B should be treated as simply more far into 1-B, as there's no proof or evidence that they scale to Kernel in it's totality.
Plain and simple.
The idea of Nobara scaling to Mahitos clone scaling her really anywhere doesn't make sense because I've read Jujutsu Kaisen 3 times & the percentage of the clone Mahito created to fight Nobara is never stated. In the Yuji & Todo fight, Mahito creates a clone that's only 20% of his actual power, so his clones can be quite weak (Nobara comments as such saying he isn't very strong).
This is supported by the fact that Nobara cucks to Nanami in Shibuya
Nanami himself being far far below Mahito in Shibuya (i can get into this if you would like)
Oh yeah and Yuji ONE SHOT the Mahito clone Nobara fought after Nobaras resonance
Meanwhile the real Mahito took a million punches after resonance and a black flash [ also lost a portion of his soul when he split into small pieces for a second ] and was at 40%. So yeah this doesn't scale Nobara anywhere....
Profile says she should be Mountain level with hairpin for damaging Mahito however I would like to say that Nobaras hairpin hit Mahito multiple times which damaged him and you can never prove that a singular hit from her hairpin damaged Mahito, this collective type of attack only works in this specific scenario so saying it makes her hairpin mountain level doesnt make much sense.
The second thing I want to say is that the profile accepts Nobara scaling to Kechizu & Eso. Kechizu & Eso both scale to Yuji in Origin Of Obedience (this is also accepted on the profile) who should be stronger than Yuji in Goodwill because they trained afterwards
Why does this matter you ask? Because Yuji in Goodwill is capable of damaging Hanami
And Hanami is mountain level, so what I suggest is having the justification for Nobara being mountain level be her being above Hanami rather than her scaling to Mahito. (And that her base form should be mountain level not only her hairpin.)
This is my first revision post so I hope it all made sense any feedback would be appreciated.
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Something I noticed in our NEP standards is that we usually assume a character who got conceptually erased (and still exists) is granted NEP Type 2. That in itself is fine, however, this part of the definition here is what isn't:
In terms of binary, this would be something that is neither 1 nor 0, where 1 is existence and 0 is nonexistence.
For some reason, a character who has a nonexistence deeper than just the material is assumed to be something transdual, that is, neither nonexistent nor existent, which is quite wrong, as it has no correlation to those at all. It'd just be a deeper level of nonexistence without further context.
So what do? I thought of simply adding another type for those. It'd become like this:
Type 1 - Material Nonexistence: The lack of any conventional existence. Such a character will exist as something beyond the normal scope of the physical and metaphysical worlds, instead existing as an idea or other unconventional state. Such entities can be conceptualized by individuals, but do not exist in a physical or normal metaphysical form (souls and the like). Abilities such as Void Manipulation or Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2) can interact with such beings. Type 2 - Conceptual Nonexistence: The ability to exist as a completely nonexistent being, being composed entirely of nothingness on a conceptual level. Such entities are typically presented as a void or nothingness that lacks concepts or any other fundamental aspect of their existence, being often depicted as something completely imperceptible. Type 3 - Transdual Nonexistence: The lack of any conventional existence and nonexistence. Such a state defies even the most basic logical principles and is unknowable in the truest form, as it is not a state at all. These entities are typically presented as primordial voids or any abstract state which precedes or opposes the state of existence and nonexistence on all levels. In terms of binary, this would be something that is neither 1 nor 0, where 1 is existence and 0 is nonexistence.
So in more simple terms:
1 - Existence
0 - Nonexistence (NEP Type 1)
0 (but "deeper") - NEP Type 2
Neither 0 nor 1 - NEP Type 3
This is our current qualifications for Mid-Godly regen:
Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of body, mind, and soul.
The issue with that is that we are assuming that a character who, for example, gets their body and soul destroyed, regenerates from their mind after, giving it only Low-Godly. This is a massive assumption that should not be taken as true unless the verse or character clearly operates under that logic. The same should apply to characters who get their body and mind destroyed.
So, the new reasoning should be:
Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of the body and a nonphysical aspect of the user, such as their soul/mind.
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Name these characters in the order you think strongest to weakest (Just by AP not by who’d win). Natsu Dragneel, Sung Jin-Woo, Ichigo Kurosaki, Naruto Uzumaki, Mori Jin, Son Goku, Meliodas, Shinra Kusakabe, Medaka Kurokami.
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Hello and happy new year for ya folks, it's quite about some time since the last post I have made talking about that subject on the latest part of the overall statistics the verse here attains. Without much issue behind, let's get to the real deal.
Some Upgrades, per se.
It's not any news for the great majority of the supporters that Sonic has FTL feats, quite consistently, via statements and direct calculations regarding said subjects by an significant amount. But how about, let's apply some upscaling regarding it and how exactly this affects the entire premise of their speed values?
We already use the 4x times multiplier in relation to the Super Peel Out, considering how much it allowed Sonic to keep pace with the V Maximum OV attack that Metal Sonic has in his department. Now the thing is, he can consistently react to it, twice.
Despite Classic Sonic having the ability to amplify his speed to 4x by using the technique, he was amazed when his Modern self showcased the Boost amplification, when catching the Chaos Emerald on the other side. Which kinda shows the relation to how he upscales to the said multiplier, since Sonic by himself can keep up with people far superior to Metal on his own like the Mega DER with his normal speed output. A important thing to note is that this Death Egg Robot is said to completely surpass Infinite, which makes it superior to him in abilities as well, since Infinite could previously replicate the overdrive attack Metal Sonic has. Infinite had previously outpaced Sonic when he used his Boost technique in their first encounter, so this a more reasonable take on the matter.
In short, this is a multiplier addition, the speed scaling in summary would look like this:
The 7,78 calc already used in the page is going to be followed by the multiplier, which would kinda make it look like this:
7,78 x4 = 31,12c (FTL+)
Since Sonic upscales above the result of this value, given what I showed above, he would scale to this:
31,12c x4 = 124,48 (Massively FTL)
Note that the MFTL value only scales to Modern Sonic, likely Shadow, Post-Gens Classic Sonic and the Avatar, as they are overall superior to their previous incarnations after the timeskip of 6 months since the day Sonic got trapped in the death egg where he received a huge power boost right after.
Some justification updates
Since some links on the profile are broken, I'll simply move some scans content to where they belong into, also the E-102 Gamma calc is going to be updated accordingly to the said parameter, since the new version has a Rela+ result, which is kinda lower compared to the previous calc, but it can be used as a supporting feat.
Sonic's Excalibur key lacks actual feats, as it only scales above his base form by an unquantifiable amount. But I'll simply update that to some degrees with a relevant upgrade on this subject. Since Merlina has her own feat of unleashing her dark power through the entire storybook in this context the fate of everyone inside of the Arthurian legend would be decided thanks to her power consuming the entire kingdom in-between the boundaries of the Underworld which was going to merge the said universe into the parallel dimension, which was stopped after Sonic unleashed Excalibur's actual power and defeated her, the fact that the Kingdom is being warped and consumed is further backed up by Lancelot's statement, which was actually proven in-screen.
Given that Merlina was actually planning to stop the entire legend in the flow of time by using her sheer power, I think the premise of the feat kinda shows a Low 2-C tier for it.
Note: Some of those scans come from the actual encyclopedia that Flynn has written to showcase some details, so they are a reliable source for those cases as they don't contain contradictions to what the game shows in the majority of the scenarios.
I'll appreciate further input on this before reaching the applications.