Both Low 2-C
Can he bypass two layers of both High-Godly regen and Resistance to High-Godly regen negation?
Well, it’s due to mechanics of the abilities. Earlier we talked that the cosmology destruction would be above the type 2 concepts but the counter argument was that High-Godly means that they can come back from whatever level they need to exist, however, Izayoi blatantly shows that cosmology destruction can deal with High-Godly.
You also keep saying that 1-B range is unfairly dismissed but haven’t actually given me good reasons as to why it should be 1-B in the first place tbh. He only has the 1-B potency but not DC and even less so range.
So Izayoi can negate one layer of High-Godly with cosmology destruction. Anos has two layers of both High-Godly regen and Resistance to High-Godly regen negation.
I'm saying it's unfairly dismissed because you're being nit-picky with Maou Gakuin's cosmology. Dismissing 1-B range just because there isn't full on reality-fiction transcendence isn't really a good reason. Each layer is infinite in size and contains countless universes, so I still don't see a good reason to dismiss the 1-B range.
Also, Venuzdonoa doesn't have to destroy the concept or whatever that Immortality type 8 is reliant on. It simply denies the fact that their immortal.
I'm not sure what you mean by "DC".
Anyways, Anos' law & concept manip are both passive and have 1-B potency. If Izayoi can't resist it, then Anos can just repeatedly and conceptually destroy Izayoi.
1-B Range: Beating the dead horse here, I'm not being nit-picky, it's just blatantly not meeting a standard for one's 1-B range. The potency of something does not dictate its range. You are just jumping to conclusions. "DC" means destructive capacity, which is different to "AP" in the same way the potency of an ability is different to its range. Even with the description given the range would not be enough, the Mondaiji multiverse is just massively bigger to the Maou Gakuin even just considering the interchanging parallel world mechanics behind it. Matter of fact, I don't even understand how the verse gets 1-B law and concept manipulation, the vs battle wiki interpretation given seems fine the only thing that changes is that the trivialization of higher d power in loops seems fine. Might have to make a separate thread altogether to downgrade stuff ngl.
This Venuzdona mechanic has always been done through negating regeneration not trough having a set existence marked, I don't even know how you got this interpretation.
I might have slow replies due to being out celebrating b-day but yeah.
Yeah I'm not gonna argue the range with you anymore. Each layer has infinite size, and contains countless universes, and there's a somewhat reality-fiction transcendence between each layer. Dismissing the range just so that Venuzdonoa seemingly can't deny Izayoi's immortality seems nit-picky to me.
The law & concept manip potency is justified. It's literally stated that laws and concepts in deeper layers are greater than laws and concepts in shallow layers. We treat each layer as a higher level of existence, and thus it's 1-B potency.
Venuzdonoa has never before had to destroy the concept or whatever that Immortality type 8 was reliant on. It's always just denied the fact that someone can regenerate or that they're immortal.
Anyways, I'll admit that I have no clue how Immortality type 8 works.
I only know that Venuzdonoa doesn't have to destroy whatever the Immortality type 8 is reliant on.
Does this mean Venuzdonoa can bypass Izayoi's immortality..? I honestly don't know.
I also think this match has been delayed long enough...
If Izayoi can't nullify Anos' 1-B potency law & concept manip, then Anos wins by passively and repeatedly killing Izayoi.
If Izayoi can nullify it, then the match is inconclusive.
I mean, I already said I’m probably gonna have to downgrade Anos’ stuff if anything else is going to happen, however, my priority lies in 3 other verses being added here / fixed in VsBW atm. With your beliefs it’s probably just be incon.
I don't see any reason for a downgrade.
Currently, Izayoi can't nullify Anos' 1-B potency law & concept manip.
That means Anos wins.
I think this match should be counted as Anos' win and the thread should be closed.
We won't add the match to any profiles, since you apparently have a reason to downgrade Anos.
After you've made the Anos CRT, and the downgrade was either accepted or rejected, you can make a rematch.
Delaying the match any further would be unnecessary.
Oh, I’m not saying to delay it. Continuing it is pointless is what I meant since the issue is that we don’t even agree with Anos’ statistics.
Even if he won it’d be win by stomp so it can’t be added due to lack of win cons for Izayoi.
Okay... So can we call this match inconclusive and close the thread?