Hachimaru

Hachimaru vs Composite Naruto/Boruto verse(all characters at their strongest, every statement feats etc can be used, storm games as well, all in One Character)

Which one wins

Rules:

• Both Low 1-C

• 5-D dimensionalities

• Speed equal

• Battle takes place at Mobius Prime.

Enerjak: @Oblivion Of The Endless @SindbadDidNothingWrong @Peggy12 @Dereck03

Hachimaru: @DesiMaru777

Inconclusive:

All right so I've checked through the wiki and it seems like Hachimaru is 6D and low complex multiversal which I think should be higher but in fine with it

Here's what's I've seen that a lot of people have not noticed and I think it might be an upgrade or at least a hax for hachimaru

Which is Superposition more like an Infinite Superpositional level of existence

But Superposition or infinite Superposition existence I don't mean the traditional way if he's just everywhere and can teleport or switch places anywhere

The context of Superposition in S8 verse is vast

We have already known quite of it in ch 35 where Fudo myoo first introduces of it when asked how old is he, he says he's in a paradoxical state of both living and dead in a sense the answer lies in how you observe which is an direct reference to quantum Superposition which States an particle may exist in two or more states and it collapses into one state when an observer comes into action. He even gives an Schrodingir's cat explanation further proving about quantum Superpositional existence

And Hachimaru who latter became fudo myoo was directly stated that his possibilities are as vast as the infinite universe/cosmos, since when hachimaru asks if he can see what's inside the Pandora's box since even his master Daruma is unable to see anything to which Fudo myoo replies with is that "The Answer lies in how you choose to view yourself, for your possibilities are vast as as the infinite universe"

Here are some of the images of it from first implication of Superposition when he says Hachimaru might be or might not be it and that there's no absolutes in life

Here's when he directly says he exists in an paradoxical state of both dead and living in a sense and it depends on how you see it

Here he talks of Pandora's box which fudo myoo says it won't exist until one truely tries to to see it which again implies of Superposition of Existence and not existing at the same time

Here's an direct explanation of the schrodinger's cat experiment which further proves quantum Superposition in the verse

^^^^^And here in the above 2 pics he directly says Hachimaru having an Infinite possibilities on how he sees stuff which means Hachimaru can literally be anything as long as he sees itself I. E true form of hachimaru/fudo myoo (cause later we know he became fudo myoo, which I'll also go in details) is an formless infinite being which collapses to one state on what he sees himself as , I. E he maybe anything he wants

And now in this ^^^^^ above, we get an confirmation that he literally an infinite Superpositional existence and he decides what form to take just like fudo myoo

Here we get the potential how far he can get, he literally understood what fudo myoo said and saw himself as a Fudo myoo and guess what he actually became the fudo myoo, both living and dead, existing and non existing, beyond time space and within time space as drive of energy that flows through it(it's said in the last chapter)

^^^^ and finally above here we get an final confirmation of him having an infinite Superpositional existence

Considering that with an limited intelligence he could understand and see himself as fudo myoo an higher dimensional abstract being and became one so now after becoming the fudo myoo the verse concept of information and wisdom itself and with multiple statements and confirmation that he has an infinite possibilities I. E infinite Superpositional existence so he could probably become absolutely anything he sees himself as, his nature is formless and infinitesimal and he collapses into one state on how he observes himself as

^^ Here we get to know that Fudo myoo isn't any one person it's an nature itself

Now I don't think it's just any probability manipulation hax or anything yes it is to quite some extent but we know quantum Superposition means an being in multiple states at once and collapsing into one when an observer comes into action so true form of the object is something else and it merely collapses into one and here in S8 we know that Hachimaru true form/nature has infinite states of existence and collapses into one when he sees himself as, so what level will that true infinite state existence at once mean? From just a few we know he is existing and non existence(Pandora box), living and dead, beyond space time and within space time as pure drive of power, Alpha and Omega(A'un relation described by Daruma) and this are just very very small compared to infinite which makes his potential extremely vast and knowing him being the very concept of information, embodiment of thoughts, memories, will, callings, premonition etc it won't be far off to assume he can literally be anything he wants to which is actually insane

Now doing a bit research on quantum infinite Superposition I got to know that for an object to have an infinite Superposition/states of existence it needs an hilbert space of infinite dimensions for such a object to even exist(please take this with a grain of salt or if possible please look up for it over the internet regarding quantum infinite Superposition and hilbert space, cause I couldn't understand very clearly since I'm not a student of quantum physics but it's from the very little I understood)

Please give your opinions on this and what you guys think of it, thank you for your patient reading

I did a previous matchup against Zeno and GO and it seemed to turn out an mismatch so I'm now doing a better one

Hachimaru from Samurai 8 and Xeno Goku from db heros

Xeno Goku at his strongest, for Hachimaru it would be the Avatar Hachimaru who got infinite stats and transcended the time space of S8 verse

R1. Speed Equalized

R2. Speed Unequal

Who would win

Ok, this CRT will be focused mainly on his last key since that is the one with the most issues, but I'll also tackle the confusing scaling of the second one.

Second Key

The main issue is the extremely messy scaling it has. The text is the following:

At least Moon level, likely higher (was able to fight Ata who was capable of performing this feat casually), at least Universe level+, likely Complex Multiverse level (Possessed Infinite Stats including strength and had surpassed space and time, space being stated to contain multiple dimensions/infinities as well as some that cannot be seen outside the traditional 3 spatial and 1 temporal dimensions)

First of all, why is the 5-C low end even needed on this? If it is because he started 5-C and then got better feats, those should be different keys. Second, it shouldn't have a Low 2-C end, as the same evidence being used to have him as 5-D is the one being used for it, so it should jut be removed completely. Third and least, it lists him as "Complex Multiverse level" when he's in fact Low 1-C as said in both his Dimensionality and Tier sections.

Last Key

Now, my issues on this key are big, since the text is the very confusing:

Low Complex Multiverse level (ascending to a higher plane as an information body with mere avatars existing beyond space and time, space being stated to contain multiple dimensions/infinities as well as some that cannot be seen outside the traditional 3 spatial and 1 temporal dimensions), possibly Ascendent level (exists as pure information outside the confines of traditional space and time, information being purely metaphysical in nature, thus not being bound by dimensionality).

The sole scan given doesn't even work, but since it scales above the last key, Low 1-C is fine. My issue is with the 1-A end, which should be removed completely, as the description isn't even 1-A. Being information is, in fact, 10-C, in case you forgot information is something that exists in the real world, while being outside the confines of traditional space and time is literally something the previous key already does, so that isn't a justification for 1-A unless infiite dimensions are proven. "Not being bound by dimensionality" only puts him above the number of dimensions the verse has, which is apparently 5, so it'll be 6-D unless infinite dimensions are proven. "Being purely metaphysical in nature" is Abstract Existance and not related to AP. All in all, the 1-A end makes no sense and this key should be downgraded to simply 6-D.