Acausality is listed as one of the possible uses for higher-dimensional existence and there’s no justification, so unless someone has a justification, it should be removed.
What's on your mind?
The current calc uses an assumption that Popstar is the size of Saturn, even though there's no evidence for that, and it seems more likely that Popstar is around Earth-size, as it's similar in size to Shiver Star, which is basically an Earth-look a like
So, i'd recommend to use this calc instead:
Still Low 4-C, but without the +
Agree: @The Pink God
The power of the explosion Katsuki Bakugo managed to create during his fight against Nine was only 8,12 Tons of TNT (Large Building level+)
While at the "Attack Potency" is "Large Building level+", at the "Tier" it's "8-B", which is incorrect. Also the "8-A" from "Tier" should also be changed into "8-B" (and City-block level+ at the Attack Potency and Durability)
So, this is a pretty simple one. What I’m proposing is that all Gurren Lagann characters should lose their high 1-C ratings.
This is the scan using to support the current ratings for the characters: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/e/e3/PicsArt_05-03-07.13.10_%281%29_%281%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20210210155507
I would’ve thought people might notice but the statement in question actually verbatim says that the “10th and 11th dimensions” are what they call the universes that the anti-spiral created a time-space between the membranes of.
The fact is that if this scene was supposed to depict something that’s 11D in nature, they failed by virtue of incorrect use of language or it’s translated incorrectly and needs another translation from the raws.
That will be all 👌
Current reasoning on Belphemon's (the only Demon Lord here) profile has no reason whatsoever to be High 1-B
High Hyperverse level (The Demon Lords themselves are Multiversal constants, with their existence itself being linked to the Digital World. Their true forms are infinitely stronger than it's avatars)
It just mentions that their true forms are infinitely stronger than their avatars, but that simply doesn't grant High 1-B at all, and further evidence is needed that their true forms scale to Kernel (which is basically the High 1-B structure in-verse)
So basically sunmarizing this:
True Demon Lords rated as High 1-B should be treated as simply more far into 1-B, as there's no proof or evidence that they scale to Kernel in it's totality.
Plain and simple.
The idea of Nobara scaling to Mahitos clone scaling her really anywhere doesn't make sense because I've read Jujutsu Kaisen 3 times & the percentage of the clone Mahito created to fight Nobara is never stated. In the Yuji & Todo fight, Mahito creates a clone that's only 20% of his actual power, so his clones can be quite weak (Nobara comments as such saying he isn't very strong).
This is supported by the fact that Nobara cucks to Nanami in Shibuya
Nanami himself being far far below Mahito in Shibuya (i can get into this if you would like)
Oh yeah and Yuji ONE SHOT the Mahito clone Nobara fought after Nobaras resonance
Meanwhile the real Mahito took a million punches after resonance and a black flash [ also lost a portion of his soul when he split into small pieces for a second ] and was at 40%. So yeah this doesn't scale Nobara anywhere....
Profile says she should be Mountain level with hairpin for damaging Mahito however I would like to say that Nobaras hairpin hit Mahito multiple times which damaged him and you can never prove that a singular hit from her hairpin damaged Mahito, this collective type of attack only works in this specific scenario so saying it makes her hairpin mountain level doesnt make much sense.
The second thing I want to say is that the profile accepts Nobara scaling to Kechizu & Eso. Kechizu & Eso both scale to Yuji in Origin Of Obedience (this is also accepted on the profile) who should be stronger than Yuji in Goodwill because they trained afterwards
Why does this matter you ask? Because Yuji in Goodwill is capable of damaging Hanami
And Hanami is mountain level, so what I suggest is having the justification for Nobara being mountain level be her being above Hanami rather than her scaling to Mahito. (And that her base form should be mountain level not only her hairpin.)
This is my first revision post so I hope it all made sense any feedback would be appreciated.
Something I noticed in our NEP standards is that we usually assume a character who got conceptually erased (and still exists) is granted NEP Type 2. That in itself is fine, however, this part of the definition here is what isn't:
In terms of binary, this would be something that is neither 1 nor 0, where 1 is existence and 0 is nonexistence.
For some reason, a character who has a nonexistence deeper than just the material is assumed to be something transdual, that is, neither nonexistent nor existent, which is quite wrong, as it has no correlation to those at all. It'd just be a deeper level of nonexistence without further context.
So what do? I thought of simply adding another type for those. It'd become like this:
Type 1 - Material Nonexistence: The lack of any conventional existence. Such a character will exist as something beyond the normal scope of the physical and metaphysical worlds, instead existing as an idea or other unconventional state. Such entities can be conceptualized by individuals, but do not exist in a physical or normal metaphysical form (souls and the like). Abilities such as Void Manipulation or Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2) can interact with such beings. Type 2 - Conceptual Nonexistence: The ability to exist as a completely nonexistent being, being composed entirely of nothingness on a conceptual level. Such entities are typically presented as a void or nothingness that lacks concepts or any other fundamental aspect of their existence, being often depicted as something completely imperceptible. Type 3 - Transdual Nonexistence: The lack of any conventional existence and nonexistence. Such a state defies even the most basic logical principles and is unknowable in the truest form, as it is not a state at all. These entities are typically presented as primordial voids or any abstract state which precedes or opposes the state of existence and nonexistence on all levels. In terms of binary, this would be something that is neither 1 nor 0, where 1 is existence and 0 is nonexistence.
So in more simple terms:
1 - Existence
0 - Nonexistence (NEP Type 1)
0 (but "deeper") - NEP Type 2
Neither 0 nor 1 - NEP Type 3
This is our current qualifications for Mid-Godly regen:
Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of body, mind, and soul.
The issue with that is that we are assuming that a character who, for example, gets their body and soul destroyed, regenerates from their mind after, giving it only Low-Godly. This is a massive assumption that should not be taken as true unless the verse or character clearly operates under that logic. The same should apply to characters who get their body and mind destroyed.
So, the new reasoning should be:
Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of the body and a nonphysical aspect of the user, such as their soul/mind.
Hello and happy new year for ya folks, it's quite about some time since the last post I have made talking about that subject on the latest part of the overall statistics the verse here attains. Without much issue behind, let's get to the real deal.
Some Upgrades, per se.
It's not any news for the great majority of the supporters that Sonic has FTL feats, quite consistently, via statements and direct calculations regarding said subjects by an significant amount. But how about, let's apply some upscaling regarding it and how exactly this affects the entire premise of their speed values?
We already use the 4x times multiplier in relation to the Super Peel Out, considering how much it allowed Sonic to keep pace with the V Maximum OV attack that Metal Sonic has in his department. Now the thing is, he can consistently react to it, twice.
Despite Classic Sonic having the ability to amplify his speed to 4x by using the technique, he was amazed when his Modern self showcased the Boost amplification, when catching the Chaos Emerald on the other side. Which kinda shows the relation to how he upscales to the said multiplier, since Sonic by himself can keep up with people far superior to Metal on his own like the Mega DER with his normal speed output. A important thing to note is that this Death Egg Robot is said to completely surpass Infinite, which makes it superior to him in abilities as well, since Infinite could previously replicate the overdrive attack Metal Sonic has. Infinite had previously outpaced Sonic when he used his Boost technique in their first encounter, so this a more reasonable take on the matter.
In short, this is a multiplier addition, the speed scaling in summary would look like this:
The 7,78 calc already used in the page is going to be followed by the multiplier, which would kinda make it look like this:
7,78 x4 = 31,12c (FTL+)
Since Sonic upscales above the result of this value, given what I showed above, he would scale to this:
31,12c x4 = 124,48 (Massively FTL)
Note that the MFTL value only scales to Modern Sonic, likely Shadow, Post-Gens Classic Sonic and the Avatar, as they are overall superior to their previous incarnations after the timeskip of 6 months since the day Sonic got trapped in the death egg where he received a huge power boost right after.
Some justification updates
Since some links on the profile are broken, I'll simply move some scans content to where they belong into, also the E-102 Gamma calc is going to be updated accordingly to the said parameter, since the new version has a Rela+ result, which is kinda lower compared to the previous calc, but it can be used as a supporting feat.
Sonic's Excalibur key lacks actual feats, as it only scales above his base form by an unquantifiable amount. But I'll simply update that to some degrees with a relevant upgrade on this subject. Since Merlina has her own feat of unleashing her dark power through the entire storybook in this context the fate of everyone inside of the Arthurian legend would be decided thanks to her power consuming the entire kingdom in-between the boundaries of the Underworld which was going to merge the said universe into the parallel dimension, which was stopped after Sonic unleashed Excalibur's actual power and defeated her, the fact that the Kingdom is being warped and consumed is further backed up by Lancelot's statement, which was actually proven in-screen.
Given that Merlina was actually planning to stop the entire legend in the flow of time by using her sheer power, I think the premise of the feat kinda shows a Low 2-C tier for it.
Note: Some of those scans come from the actual encyclopedia that Flynn has written to showcase some details, so they are a reliable source for those cases as they don't contain contradictions to what the game shows in the majority of the scenarios.
I'll appreciate further input on this before reaching the applications.
Time Stop, Light Manipulation, and Reality Warping, Life Manipulation (already on his profile).
When he got Suniaster, the first thing he did was stop everything including time and then recreate the world.
Then slowly...held over the [Star Grail] with his hand, and then------------...... ■ ■ ■ ■ ■ That view, everyone in the world witnessed. Therefore, that was, one of the very few things of this history, that was left recorded as a historical fact... ----First, light engulfed the world. The light that expanded in the far away horizon, covered the red heaven and dyed even the land in white, and stole the boundary of heaven and earth. When the light that expanded soundlessly stopped----the world, had lost its color. Everyone felt troubled in differentiating the heaven from earth, and then, in the space of one beat they noticed. The ash that danced in the sky stopped in space, the fires of war forgot to flicker, and any and all things stopped. ----Even the time. Everything, besides those who possessed life. While being silenced by that view, leaving behind the life and the living ones, in the space of many instants. ----A impact engulfed the world. It was clearly different from destruction----a gentle power passed through as if licking the world. At the same time, the ones who looked up to the sky----opened their eyes. A view that missed the normal course----all living things, and races just gazed at that while still not understanding it. Source: Vol 6 Chapter 5
His voice reached throughout the heavens and across the earth.
"All right. With that-" With these words, the weakest and last Old Deus held out the Suniaster and proclaimed in a voice that reached throughout the heavens and across the earth: O Ixseeds that claim yourselves wise And so the myth that would never be sung continued into the myth that still is told. That is: By the vow of achéte and the bonds of aschent, the One True God, on his ascente, setteth forth the Ten Covenants. Which ye shall heed. For this day, today, the world hath changed. -Aschente!! Source: Vol 6 Chapter 5
Resistance to BFR
Old Deus could easily break out of the pocket space
It was clearly overkill against one of the other races. However, deploying this ultimate attack on an enemy larger than oneself would be pointless. It only worked here because Azril had vastly more power than Jibril—enough to seal her off in a separate dimension. Beings stronger than Azril—such as Phantasmas, Dragonias, and Old Dei—could easily break out of the pocket space, rendering the attack useless. Source: Practical War Game - High Card All Raise Part 2
Possible Plot Manipulation or Text Manipulation
Tet with his book wrote set the storyline of Kuuhaku's journey.
“Please don’t make me wait too long, Blank.” He kicked the edge of the piece he was sitting on with his heels. “I can hardly stand it anymore. If you make me wait too long—I’m going to have to visit you, aren’t I?” Twisting his mouth into an impudent grin, he whispered: “Oh, that’s right. Next—” Apparently having thought of how to continue his story, Tet twirled his quill. “‘One day, a pair of gamers was invited from another world to a country of Immanity, the lowest-ranking race among the Ixseeds. Coming to the last bastion of beleaguered Immanity—to Elkia—they defended it from other races and became the king and queen—and that is where everything started’… I like it!” —The scribbles he wrote, now a story, would soon be an epic passed down among the bards for generations. Penned by the hand of the God himself, foretelling the gods to come. In other words: the prologue to the newest myth—. Source: Prologue Vol 2
Immortality (Type 9)
The physical body Old Deus or Quintessence that exists physically is only a puppets or avatar so that it can exist in the physical realm. Like Holou's explanation where she is a multi-dimensional entity. The true "Quintenssence" as well as Old Deus' true form, exists in a higher dimensions.
Holou’s true form isn’t that girly appearance, after all. “I am Holou’s Quintessence” “.............eh. You mean... that ink pot you were always on?” “—Nay. That is not accurate either. What thou saw as an ink pot was simply an image of my divinity that thou could comprehend. In the fist place, Old Dei don’t have true physical body. This ‘puppet’ is nothing more than a virtual image used to communicate my will—” Source : Vol 8 Chapter 4
…You’re still caught up in that～? And I keep telling you the ‘one who calls himself’ is unnecessary!” “……? However, the components that define the individual called ‘Sora’ are variable, right? Therefore, the dimensional point of reference of the ‘Sora’ that acknowledged Holou; and thy, ‘the one who is assumed to be Sora’’s current dimensional point of reference are different. That makes thou just ‘Someone who calls himself Sora’! In that case, can the simple-dimensional intelligence that defined Holou as Holou, ‘Sora’, define all the extra-dimensional points of Holou, who is a multi-dimensional intelligence. “Ack, you are troublesome beyond imagination, you know!?” Source: Vol 8, Ideal Ending
The Ex-Machina can adapt infinitely over and over and become infinitely strong… however, they can never reach someone who is the strongest relative to everyone else. Even if they can adapt infinitely, transcending the concept said to be the strongest… transcending the absolutely strongest is theoretically impossible. “Therefore, while he was on a higher dimension… we only destroyed the Quintessence that physically existed ── However.” By doing that the manifestation of Artosh’s concept would temporarily stop ── Vol 8 chapter 4
Abstract Existence (Type 1)
Ed: Added Immortality and Abstract Existence
Dimensionality: 3-D | 3-D | 3-D | 3-D | 11-D | 11-D
This part is wrong, they shouldn't have 11-D dimensionality. The reasoning behind this level is this scan: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/e/e3/PicsArt_05-03-07.13.10_%281%29_%281%29.jpg
While it does mention 11 dimensions, if you read it carefully, you'll notice it actually says they are "located between the membranes of the dimensional universes we call the 10th and 11th dimensions". This means the place is not on the 11th dimension, at best you could argue it is a 10+1-D case, but in said scenario, the +1 indicates a temporal dimension rather than a spatial one, and dimensionality is defined by the number of spatial dimensions not temporal ones. So, their dimensionality should be downgraded to reflect they aren't in the space of the 11th dimensions.
Aizen should have a few abilities
Passive Telekinesis (Was able to suspend rocks in the air)
Passive Existence Erasure (Aizen’s Reiatsu is stated that anything that comes in contact with him will cease to exist)
And since Ichigo also has Transcendent Reiatsu he should have this as well including a resistence to it due to the fact that he was able to physically grab Aizen which wouldn’t happen if he wasn’t resistant because otherwise he would’ve been welp “erased” obviously.
The reason Ichigo should have this ability as well since the ability itself derives the fact that Aizen has “Transcendental Reiatsu”
And since Ichigo is more transcendent than that version of Aizen, Ichigo should have this as well
Key: Base | Max Toon Force
Why do these keys exist? What exactly marks the difference between one and another? If the thing is just the Toon Force being incosistent, then it can just be a Varies, not really a reason to make it two keys.
Because I feel like bringing up this is very important considering certain other threads are related to it, I think before we can advance on them, we should deal with an important topic: concepts. Before anyone gets that idea, I'm not completely reworking our current concept types, and instead want to deal more with certain other things.
The first one, since I think it'll help smooth the rest I'll touch, is to delete Type 4. There's a couple of reasons for this, one of the most important ones being that when I looked up regarding these lesser realism concepts, I couldn't find any kind of information on the subject, which I automatically took as a red flag, since unlike the other 3 types, there doesn't appear to be any kind of basis for these kind od concepts. Another issue I have is obscurity: how many characters even HAVE this power? This may sound like an appeal to popularity, but if we don't have examples of Type 4 Concept Manip, then what's even the point of having it? If someone can tell me what kind of theory are these concepts based on and who manipulates them, then this complains aren't really much but nitpicks, but otherwise, why have powers with no basis that no one has?
Going off that, without Type 4, Type 3 Concepts end up being the lowest type in the scale, these being the ones based on the theories of Aristotle to contrast the upper types being based on Plato. But there's also a very prominent type of concepts that serves as a perfect middle point for them and that our page doesn't represent: Jungian concepts, which are those that are outside reality but are still bound by the perception of the objects representing it. So, if we delete Lesser Realism, Aristotelian will be moved down to Type 4, and Jungian gets added as the new Type 3.
And the last one I wanted to adress is one that I've seen cause some discord: what concept type to default to. Nedless to say, Type 2 and 1 are completely out of the question, and my proposal of Jungian also needs evidence of the concepts existing beyond reality, so I think it's perfectly fair to say concepts should be taken as Aristotelian as a baseline and the higher types should only be taken with evidence of those types being used in the verse. So, without any evidence of the qualities of those types, when a verse mentions "concept of x", it should be considered to be an Aristotelian concept and have the workings of them, unless evidence of the other types is provided.
Delete current Type 4/Lesser Realism
Add Jungian concepts as Type 3 and move down Aristotelian to 4
Default to Aristotelian concepts without further evidence of the other higher types.
Hopefully, this can help to solve the multiple issues with been having over concepts and how to treat them that have spoured lately.
So...this has been a long time coming
This revision is based on this blog that we currently use to justify the shinza ratings.
Now, I'm not going to touch the 1A stuff cause that should work due to taikyoku being an absolute law regardless of the number of dimensions within the picture.
That, and this as another piece of evidence:
Black and White, Blue and Red, Light and Darkness, Obverse and Reverse. Every single conceiveable, Dualistic, conflicting, rivalring phenomena, concepts, that exist within this world, all without exception existed here. Flowing, in continous change, a Great Mandala in the shape of a designed pattern, changing in a kaleidoscope like form while continuing to revolve. Infinite colours overflowed, and nevertheless, there was not a single independent thing here. They all have an enemy (furigana: couple), that always certain, under the auspices of the absolute Law. Quite like a microcosm of their universe. An embodiment of the world of Dualism, woven in textile of trascendent scope.
So, the 1A rating would stay.
The main issue is High 1A.
Going back to the blog, we'll go to the explanation they have for the singularity being this sort of hierarchy.
"Next is the Singularity, the singularity is a tear in reality to the Throne where the godhead resides. Usually generated by a clash of Hadou Atziluth-Tai between the Throne and the lowest floor (Multiverse). Basically singularities are created from the collision between the "Color" or Law of Hadou Gods, the world is "unaffected" by the Law of the Hadou where God does not exist and is not affected by the Law as they block the flow of Law and became the Singularity rather than be influenced by the Supreme Law (Atziluth-Tai). In order to reach the throne, the challenger may opt to drill through the depths of the Singularity using their law.
The depth of the Singularity varies in accordance with the ruling deity's law strength (Taikyoku/Taiji). As such, Singularities generated by a God with "higher" quality would be immeasurably "deeper" than those of lower quality, and therefore will not be "drilled" or "crossed" without adequate strength - there are few exceptions to this rule, however.
Additionally, the Singularity is described as an infinite abyss of colorless Taikyoku/Taiji that can be comprehended and interacted only by deities. It is a "place" that gives birth natural laws and new ideas/concepts, and where the afterimages or shades of Gods from the past, who must be overcome and thoroughly understood in order to reach the throne, reside.
Despite being referred to as "place", It is utterly impossible to define the Singularity due to its abstract nature: the laws of physics simply do not exist in the Singularity, and all of creation are mixed there, side by side - be it past, present or future. Thus, the process of "drilling" can be compared to "falling" to nowhere.
Lastly, It should also be noted that despite being naturally unaffected by the laws of the Gods, the Singularity is still under the possession of the Throne God."
The first issue is that while the singularity itself might be below the gods, the influence gods hold over it allows it to become larger than other gods. We even have other gods taking thousands of years just to break a single layer of Hajun's singularity even after nearly all of it was drill through by Hajun
Thousands of years, tens of thousands of years, Shinsu, which continued falling, finally had the last wall severed and connected to the bottom of the hole
Note: This is after Yato states that the singularity was reduced to a single layer. But even at the beginning of the fight, it was stated that they were "near" the bottom of the hole, which they then state again
And obviously, we have the stuff with Yato being unable to reach the bottom of the throne even after 8000 years.
“That thing sits in the depth that is unreachable, not even after hundreds, thousands of years or even more”
Note that, however, Yato would have definitely reached the bottom eventually as shown by this statement
I can feel it, The Throne's location. It is very close.
Statement's at 7:27
This would actually now go against the logic of a stronger god's singularity being endlessly deeper than a weaker god's singularity as there would no longer be enough basis. Yato is capable of reaching the bottom as there are enough statements confirming that. And there isn't really enough context behind the statement by Mercurius to really say that it supports that kind of interpretation. At most, I can see the singularity being some sort of endlessly layered 1A hierarchy, but only using those two scans seems like quite a reach.
Another issue is with the throne. Currently, we give a High 1A rating for the Throne due to it apparently being beyond all the expansions of the singularity. This would imply that the throne is non-static in nature. This, however, isn't true at all.
The throne by nature is also supposed to be able to handle any god's spiritual mass, but can somehow be easily destroyed by any of them?? I hope I don't need to point out how contradictory that logic is.
This would therefore make throne varying degrees of 1A, and the gods as well due to scaling to that.
The other thing is for the gods scaling to the throne.
To be frank, I think we need to clarify that the gods would only scale to thrones belonging to the throne god that they scale to or above. For example, Ren, Reinhard, and Mercurius were all capable of affecting the Throne in many ways throughout their fight whether it was shaking it, freezing it, or outright destroying it. However, a stronger throne would likely be much harder to destroy, just like how a stronger singularity would be much harder to cross.
Manipulation of slashes and its targets through change and convergence. Those who were struck by Soujirou possesses the fact "that the sword called Mibu Soujirou cut them". Through this, he can activate the attack again and kill anyone without lifting a finger. Moreover while he can't change the absolute truth that "he cut something", he is capable of changing "what was cut". This allows him to knit the strongest slash by gathering all cuts he mades as a human and realize it, creating an attack that's strong enough to cut the Throne itself
We use this as well. Unfortunately, it also removes the important thing that soujirou is also capable of negating taikyoku differences with his slash, therefore making it almost impossible to use this for scaling. It's also especially hard to scale this feat to any other character due to the vocabulary they use like "strongest slash"...not sure if I have to clarify on why this is a problem.
And then we have Hajun, for some reason, having an "infinitely-layered" singularity. And, if I remember correctly, this is due to the argument that Hajun's value is beyond even infinity.
However, this has a few issues
This has never once been stated
His value is literally stated to just be a constantly rising value, hence why he's immeasurable.
So, even if all else fails, the gods would still have to be downgraded to 1A+.
The singularity of a stronger god can surpass a weaker god's level of existence entirely due to the influence of the throne god, even if the singularity by itself is nothing to them.
The difference between a singularity of a stronger god and that of a weaker god is not some kind of 1A transcendence, but is just an uncountably infinite difference at best.
The Throne, which is one of the main things we use to grant the High 1A rating for the gods, is not beyond all expansions of the 1A singularity, and would also be varying degrees of 1A.
Note: Sorry if it's kinda messy, I was rushing to make something and didn't just want to say "hey guys, let's downgrade the verse before nuking it from the wiki". Basically, I wanted to at least put some arguments or reasoning her for a downgrade
Ok, I'm sure this will be a little controvertial, so I'll just go straight to tackle this and the point I want to touch is a detail about Type 2. To be exact, this part:
As space and time themselves can be considered a duality, as well as the distinction between being within/outside spatio-temporal dimensionality’s limitations, this type is reserved for 1-A characters and up.
Type 2 Transduals are currently considered to automatically be 1-A due to the fact they would trascend the duality made by space and time. There is a MASSIVE issue with this line of logic, and I'll quote our Tiering System page to point it out:
A common statement seem across fiction refers to "transcending space-time". This statement, due to its wide variety of meanings and usages, has been deemed to not be enough for a character to be considered Tier 1
Trascending space-time is already noted in the TS page to NOT default to Tier 1, let alone be 1-A, so unless we're going to go by the logic that any character who trascends space-time is 1-A, the Transduality page should be changed so the fact Type 2 Tranduals trascend space-time isn't enough for them to be considered Tier 1 without further context on that. Logically, this also affects Type 3 for much of the same reasons.
This CRT was made by Oblivion Of The Endless
It's simple. Current Shinra should have AE Type 1
The Evangelist is the literal embodiment of the collective unconscious and despair itself, while Shinra's mom is the evangelist's opposite/doppelganger, representing Hope. Shinra later fuses with both his brother and mom (Hope), becoming Hope itself. This should give him AE Type 1.
I agree that this would give Shinra AE, however Oblivion didn't explain why it's Type 1 AE, Oblivion didn't give any scan or reason why it's Type 1.
I found some other ploblems in the profile as well (mainly the abilities and stats), but i will go more in depth in the future
But this is a start off
Do i need to explain why this isn't a LS feat? this is simply Magolor warping the area around, this is nothing but a hax feat and thus should be removed as LS
Simple as that.
It's simple. Current Shinra should have AE Type 1
The Evangelist is the literal embodiment of the collective unconscious and despair itself, while Shinra's mom is the evangelist's opposite/doppelganger, representing Hope. Shinra later fuses with both his brother and mom (Hope), becoming Hope itself. This should give him AE Type 1.
So we already have Devil May Cry profiles on here. Its up to date to DMC5, and incredibly in-depth and well done, as well as 2-C, which is correct. There is one small problem though.
The tiers for all of the characters are based on inaccurate scaling based on DebatesJungles Wiki's scaling. The most notable example being everyone in DMC3 being 2-C scaling off of incredibly inaccurate hyperbole stated by Arkham, where he said "he possessed the power of Sparda", even though he only wielded a sealed form of Sparda's sword that on top of that can only be used to its full potential by members of the Sparda bloodline, and outside of that maybe only scales to the Yamato and Rebellion, which are equal to each other, with the former being capable of awakening Nero's Devil Trigger, allowing him to defeat the Savior, who was capable of recreating Fortuna Island. Only 6-C huh?
Vergil supposedly being 2-C based on him fighting Mundus at the end of DMC3 is also invalid, considering he got soundly defeated and there's no evidence to suggest that Vergil was actually a match for Mundus, much less did any meaningful damage against him.
Nero making a minor cut on Urizen's hand that regenerates almost immediately also doesn't count towards him being 2-C, considering he's completely outclassed by Urizen and gets defeated by him almost immediately afterwards.
The things to be downgraded are as follows:
Dante's DMC3 key: Low 7-B+ pre-Devil Trigger, 6-C post-Devil Trigger (Scaling off of Nero, who was awakened by the Yamato and defeated the Savior, with the Yamato and Rebellion being equal in power)
Vergil's DMC3 key: 6-C (Scaling off of Nero, who was awakened by the Yamato and defeated the Savior)
Nero's DMC4 keys: Low 7-B+ pre-Devil Trigger, 6-C post-Devil Trigger
Nero's DMC5 keys: 6-C pre-Devil Trigger, 2-C post-Devil Trigger
The keys should also be reorganized. Devil Trigger and Sin Devil Trigger shouldn't be in separate keys, and should be included in the keys of the games they appeared in (like DMC5 for Sin Devil Trigger, and Nero's Devil Trigger keys being merged into his base keys)
Edit: Immeasurable movement speed should also be taken down unless a CRT confirming the canonicity of Pinnacle of Combat goes through, considering Pluto's Immeasurable feat is actually valid unlike the Furies' Immeasurable feat